Dian Hanson – Chronicles, Part 4: The Taschen Years – Podcast 142

Dian Hanson – Chronicles, Part 4: The Taschen Years – Podcast 142
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By the mid 1990s, Dian Hanson could’ve been forgiven for thinking that she’d finally made it – and that nothing was going to derail her career in magazine publishing that had started two decades earlier.

She’d had an improbable and volatile journey, from a troubled upbringing and difficult marriage, to working as a nurse in rural Pennsylvania, before somehow launching an explicit men’s magazine called Puritan for the mob in New York. There followed a succession of writing, publishing, and editing jobs on men’s magazines whose titles eloquently reveal their sexual content: Hooker, Expose’, Partner, Adult Cinema Review, and Juggs, to name a few.

Her greatest triumph was Leg Show magazine – which Dian turned into a high-selling juggernaut. It was a match made in heaven: Dian, long fascinated and deeply compassionate about sexual quirks and fetish, an audience that was crying out for a more intimate connection with their magazine, and a publisher, George Mavety, who gave Dian near-complete creative control.

But then just as everything seemed to be working out perfectly, the internet happened – crippling the sex magazine business. To make matters worse, her employer, George Mavety, died. The good times were suddenly retreating in the rear-view mirror.

In this final episode of the series, Dian talks about what happened next, and how she re-invented herself with Taschen books. It’s a story that includes characters as diverse as Linda Lovelace, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Robert Crumb, transvestite model Kim Christy and transsexual porn star Sulka, Vanessa Del Rio, and many more.

You can listen to the Episode 1 here, Episode 2 here, and Episode 3 here.

This podcast is 52 minutes long.

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Robert CrumbDian in ‘Crumb‘ documentary, 1991

Robert CrumbPhoto for Crumb portrait

 

Robert CrumbR. Crumb portrait

 

Dian HansonDian standing on Leg Show reader, 1995

 

TaschenNew York, 2000

 

TaschenDian and Larry Flynt event, 2008

 

TaschenWith Liz Earls of ‘Days of the Cougar’ book, 2011

 

TaschenExplaining porn at Los Angeles Public Library, c. 2012

 

TaschenWith ‘The Art of Pin Up’, 2015

 

TaschenIn Dian’s Taschen office in Hollywood, 2018

 

TaschenDian with boyfriend Daniel, Christmas 2019

 

TaschenNaomi Campbell party, 2020

 

TaschenOnstage with Arnold Schwarzenegger, David Geffen Theater, Los Angeles, 2023

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  • Posted On: 18th August 2024
  • By: Ashley West
  • Under: Podcasts

43 Comments

  1. Jeanne Silver · August 18, 2024 Reply

    Will always have the fondest memories of Dian Hanson. She was quite the formative powerhouse then and now.
    Sending nothing but love her way

    • Rocco DiRico · August 18, 2024 Reply

      Hello Jeanne,
      This is Rocco DiRico.
      I’ve just discovered this site and want
      to thank you for posting the photo of
      me, you, Lisa Be and Peter Wolff.
      I haven’t listened to your podcasts yet
      but I will very soon.
      That photo is very interesting to me
      because Lisa Be got me started in the
      adult film business as a still photographer and Peter Wolff got me
      started in the adult magazine business.

      Hope you are doing well, T.C.

      • Dian Hanson · August 19, 2024 Reply

        Rocco, my long lost pseudo-son. You still living in Queens? Have told many the story of your family’s urban farm through the years.

        • Rocco DiRico · August 20, 2024 Reply

          Hello Dian,
          Yes, I still live in the same building in
          Queens, New York City.

          Here is the “my yard” story:
          My father was friends with the
          landlord.
          The yard was full of weeds when my
          parents moved in.
          The landlord didn’t care.
          My father asked the landlord if he could
          take care of the yard.
          We had free and total use of the yard
          from 1950 to 1990.
          When the new landlord purchased the
          building in 1990 we lost the use of the
          yard.
          Now there’s a 12 story building in my
          yard !!!

          But it’s not a total loss.
          One of the tenants in the new building
          is a woman who likes to walk around
          topless with thong panties and no curtains.
          Overall, I’d rather have the fresh
          tomatoes, the pigeon coop and the
          rabbit hutch.
          Oh well.

        • Max T. · August 22, 2024 Reply

          Whoaaaaaaaa. Y’all. What a masterwork. Dian, Ashley – thank you for this literal EPIC. In the coda, when Diane is asked her overall philosophy on her life and how it has turned out, it just feels like words to live by, like something out of an Abraham-Hicks inspirational video. It just feels so true and so profound to consider living a life more like this. Open, humble and grateful –and precisely aware. Judgment seems to be an afterthought here, it is simply loving what is. Grateful, grateful for this, will be listening again & again. Thank Y’all! So privileged to be at this table.

    • Dian Hanson · August 19, 2024 Reply

      Jeannie! Love you too, my fellow traveler. Oh, the fun we had. And Rocco is here too! It’s a virtual family reunion.

  2. Jessica · August 18, 2024 Reply

    I knew Dian back in the 1970s and it was clear she was a cut above the other femmes who inhabited the adult business and its associated businesses. What a life, what a story, what a dame!

  3. Tony Cotton · August 18, 2024 Reply

    A marvelous series, truly a towering achievement. Absolutely brilliant. Thanks to all concerned. Gripping and arresting always.

  4. Jeff Robertson · August 18, 2024 Reply

    Dian Hanson Was Awesome Rise Of Sexploitation From The 70s 80s And Early 90s Keep Up Good Work

  5. Rocco DiRico · August 18, 2024 Reply

    Hello Dian,
    This is your “son” Rocco DiRico.
    I’ve just recently discovered this channel –
    what a great site.
    However, I can only stay here for short periods of time because so many of my
    friends and people I worked for are now gone. I am sorry to hear of the passing of
    Bobby Hanson.
    What an “interesting” early life you had.
    All me and my siblings got was the wooden spoon.
    I never realized that Tony D. was “connected”. Sometimes I’m a little “stunad”.
    However, it definitely sounds like you are
    having a great time now!

    P.S. Whatever happened to those ferrets?

    • Dian Hanson · August 19, 2024 Reply

      We should just talk Rocco. I think I can find your number.

      • Rocco DiRico · August 20, 2024 Reply

        Hello Dian,
        I would love to talk to you on the phone.
        That old phone number is not good
        anymore.
        In 2018 I finally got a cell phone.
        I believe that I was the last person in
        New York City to get a cell phone.(LOL)

        Can I send a letter with my new number
        to Taschen in California?
        What’s their address?

  6. Sean · August 18, 2024 Reply

    Amazing series of podcasts. What a life you have lived Dian. Hope someday we get a Kim Christy (Ken) podcast who is more or less the grandfather(mother?) of transsexual adult cinema.

  7. GrabRodholster · August 18, 2024 Reply

    Hey, youse guys should do a full run of Puritan, just like you do with other wank rags.
    Just a thought!

    • Dian Hanson · August 19, 2024 Reply

      There weren’t that many issues of Puritan, and only two that I had a hand in. Watch Martin Scorcese’s The Irishman and you get a pretty good idea of how Puritan came about.

  8. Heather Drain · August 19, 2024 Reply

    Bravissimo! This entire four-part interview was as riveting as it was beautifully put together. Dian Hanson is as eloquent, open, and intelligent as her work. Wonderful work and words and heart on all fronts here. (Someday, I will get my mitts on that Vanessa Del Rio Taschen book.)

  9. Maurice Cain · August 19, 2024 Reply

    Dian, your next book for Taschen perhaps: Psychopathia Sexualis Vol II An Illustrated Assessment of Developements Since Krafft-Ebing by Dian Hanson.
    Tell me I should keep my eye out for it.
    And to you and Ashley both, Thanks. Y’all done well.

    • Dian Hanson · August 19, 2024 Reply

      I’m taping another podcast, with a serious book guy, tomorrow and was asked to bring three important books that everyone should know about. Psychopathia Sexualis is on top of the pile.

  10. Cassie · August 19, 2024 Reply

    So sad to see this incredible series of interviews end… it was a true – and rare – pleasure in this day and age to just hear a great conversation between two smart people.

  11. Don D. · August 19, 2024 Reply

    Wonderful conclusion to a wonderful series.

  12. Dian Hanson · August 19, 2024 Reply

    And thank you to everyone who commented. I have never wanted to spill the beans on my whole life, but Ashley is a fine and trustworthy guide, and I was honored to be asked.

  13. Art Williams · August 19, 2024 Reply

    Dian, thank you. 🙂

  14. Mort · August 19, 2024 Reply

    This was Simply The Best! Really Enjoyed it. Dian, you overcome the Odds. Job Well done!

  15. Anthony Perez · August 19, 2024 Reply

    I’m sad the series has come to an end. Maybe Dian can start a podcast of her own!

    In this episode, I was struck by her devotion to her Leg Show readers. I was also impressed by the stories of George Mavety’s generosity and loyalty. There was a lot of heart in those pages.

  16. L. A. Gothro · August 20, 2024 Reply

    Dear Dian,

    I wish I’d known someone like you when I was growing up; you would’ve been a great mentor to me. Heck, you’d be a great mentor to me now, and I’ll be 60 in November! Thank you for sharing your life and memories with us.

    I learned a great deal about porn (didn’t know what it was called) from the underground comix. I even met S. Clay Wilson and Spain Rodriguez at a comic-con in Novi, MI in tweeeenty-oh…four, I think. Even as a girl of eight, I wanted to what this sex thing was all about and how it worked!\

    With kind regards,

    L. A. Gothro

  17. Amy · August 20, 2024 Reply

    Hi Dian – I am sure that most correspondence that you receive (and perhaps the comments on this site) are from men, but I want you to know how much your life story meant to me as a woman. Thank for sharing. It means a lot to have a role model like you in my head.
    Thank you.

  18. Hans from Germany · August 20, 2024 Reply

    Brilliantly told, exceptionally put together!

  19. grendelvaldez · August 22, 2024 Reply

    Just the Best! Dian got it right. This poor Aussie couldn’t afford that beautiful Vanessa book. It still hurts. Stay Cool & Ciao.

  20. Jason · August 22, 2024 Reply

    Really enjoyable four part series. I had no idea who Dian Hanson was going in and enjoyed every bit of her story.

  21. Don · August 22, 2024 Reply

    Incredible and amazing interview with an icon – you guys are fantastic. Beautiful to have Dian commenting here as well. This website is one of the true gems of the internet.

    I have watched the interview with Schwarzenegger – just search youtube for An Evening with Arnold Schwarzenegger – June 28, 2023. Dian did a great job and it is well worth watching.

  22. Max T. · August 23, 2024 Reply

    By the way, I purchased the Vanessa book directly from her (2019), as a gift for a dear friend (who doesn’t realize what he now has). She gamely inscribed it, “Dear John, I’d really love to blow you!,” and schmeared a bright red smooch below, all wrapped in leopard tissue with raunchy “S.W.A.K.” stickers. I was awestruck, and still am. The book is triumphantly sumptuous, an obvious labor of love and homage (and the Crumb to boot!!). I so loved this RR series, cannot stop thinking about it!

  23. Jeff C. · August 25, 2024 Reply

    I just finished the series and loved everything about it. Great questions from Ashley and engaging, candid stories from Dian Hanson. (Thank you, Dian!) She is a great raconteur. Maybe she missed some book learning growing up, but she more than made up for it with abilities that school cannot teach. I wish I had even a fraction of her perseverance.

  24. Tom · August 30, 2024 Reply

    Another tremendous series Thank you so much Ashley and Dian.

    The Kevin Ayers track was the cherry on top.

    Thanks again.

  25. Tony F · September 1, 2024 Reply

    Just a great series about an amazing woman. I knew so little about her before and am now a devotee. What a life story. Dian’s ability to accept those she meets in life without judgement is to be admired and celebrated. Her willingness to accept opportunity and turn it into accomplishment is impressive to say the least. Thank you Dian for your forthright honesty in sharing your journey with everyone. I can see why your Leg Show audience found you so captivating. You look like a goddess and have empathy and acceptance for your fellow travelers in life. I would also like to thank Ashley and the RR for this profile of a beautiful, intelligent lady.

  26. Diane · September 7, 2024 Reply

    Another triumph from The Rialto Report! Dian Hanson is certainly one of the most interesting individuals featured here! It’s funny. I was thinking that Dian would make a wonderful interview for the site and was on my way to suggesting Ms. Hanson to Ashley and April, so it was a real treat to see that they had already done it!

    What really stands out for me with Dian is how she was able to handle the transition that adult publishing was going through with the internet compared to Al Goldstein. She was able to create beautiful art books for Taschen while Goldstein simply ignored the writing on the wall. Dian might not have a college degree, but so what. She certainly had the editorial eye and the foresight of the future of publishing that Goldstein, a college graduate, sadly lacked-to his detriment.

  27. Bunty · September 8, 2024 Reply

    Well, of all the stuff on the Rialto Report, this piece of work was the absolute best. I knew nothing at all of Dian Hanson before I listened to this, but every single word was utterly compelling. Well done.

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